The rules for public indecency should be consistent with sharia. Hugging and kissing in public is not more or less indecent now than it has always been, only the feelings of the public as to how wrong it is perceived to be has changed due to the influences of secular materialism and Western cultural decadence. Human opinion does not determine right and wrong, only the Word of Allah can do that.
Basically there are two options, the lowest common denominator and the highest common denominator. The lowest common denominator would be according to the acceptable limits of the decadent Western culture derived from secular materialism; the highest common denominator would be according to the limits of the civilized Muslim culture derived from the sharia of Islam. This should not be presented as an issue of religion, it is a matter of high cultural morality versus low cultural morality. The non-Muslims in Malaysian society have as much to gain from the highest level of cultural morality as do the Muslims. We should always aspire to the highest and reject the lowest.
NOTE: Due to the fact that we are shaped by our environment we must create an environment that in every way influences us in accord with the Will of Allah. Ultimately, everything in our environment that is an influence not in accord with the Will of Allah must be eliminated.
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__earth // Jan 13, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Talking about common denominator, what if a person’s highest denominator is another person’s lowest denominator?
What if there is no common denominator at all? Should we take an average? Or should a person force the other to comply to the person’s standard?
kaki bangku // Jan 13, 2007 at 3:13 pm
That is not of much concern on the practical side. Expediency is of the essence especially with something of such universality.
__earth // Jan 13, 2007 at 3:41 pm
If expediency is of the essence, then whose expediency is of priority?
If there is no commonality, then the only universality is un-commonality, if such word exists.
We should make a poem for on too.
kaki bangku // Jan 13, 2007 at 3:44 pm
The one in power, through the advocacy of the population.
__earth // Jan 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm
meaning, forcing, right?
kaki bangku // Jan 13, 2007 at 4:24 pm
It is through the advocacy of the people. Others can object via the same process.
__earth // Jan 13, 2007 at 4:55 pm
so, according to you reasoning, if the majority of people advocate homosexuality, assuming homosexuality is a moral issue, so the one in power should impose homosexuality as the moral standard on others that does not share the same standard, right?
kaki bangku // Jan 13, 2007 at 4:59 pm
I’m afraid, yes. Though bear in mind it is probably hardly ever the case that homosexuality is seen as decent moral behavior.
And by the same token the recent policy in Kota Bharu should be accepted.
SuperKafirCinaBoy // Jan 15, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Your suggestion is ridiculous. Are you saying that even non-Muslims should be subject to laws similiar to Shariah when it comes to public indecency? I think we infidels should be free to do what we want - though this is a Muslim country, we are not.
Besides, you can also wax philosophical about high standards, but you know its impossible to maintain. Just ask the Malay daughter of a Datuk who gave me a blowjob, or most Malays who speak good English nowadays. What do you think their view on khalwat is? Honestly, do they care?
Here’s a good point, really. The fact that we, as Malaysia are one of the most progressive (and financially successful) Islamic countires is actually because, while we call ourselves a Islamic country, we aren’t actually. There’s a healthy level hypocrisy, of the closing of eyes, and while a lot of them play along, the fact is a lot follow their compulsory religion by race just in name, but not by the moral standards. And that’s why it “works”. And we all know that. But of course, we can’t like, say it in the papers, or acknowledge it publicly.
Its impossible to enforce morality or stop people from basic hedonistic human instinct (Google the word “Prohibition” perhaps?). Wanting to be super-alim is all well and good, but don’t try to force your view on others.
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